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Notes on John 17:6-12,20

Introduction: Numerous times as one reads the passages in God’s living word one misses the deepness that
God explains in so few words of His doctrine. Of course Jesus is praying for his disciples.
     Later in verse twenty Christ states He is also praying for all that will be saved. He states the Father has given Him them to keep. Plain words, Jesus while He was in this world He kept them safe.
    As He goes to His rightful place, with God the Father's right hand, Christ sends the Comforter.
       John 14:16; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7
who Seals the believer.
       2 Cor 1:22; Eph 1:13; Eph 4:30.
   God the Father, God The Son, God the Holy Ghost all have a part in the Salvation of  your soul, the Godhead.

     The use of translations and commentaries are Just a few of the countless ways the Holy Spirit can work through
each one of His believers. As the Hebrews had the wisdom of the man of God in their past so do we in this modern age. The beauty of the old Translation and commentaries is the comments still apply today.
     Our purpose is not to spoon feed anyone or cause offense to anyone. Through the Holy Spirit and God’s 
leading, I strive to have you find the answers on your own. There are many people as called So called Christian Leaders which are wolves in sheep clothing. The bible is simple to understand.
     The clergy have wanted people to think it was beyond their understanding. Not true, each believer has the
 Holy Spirit to lead and open their understanding. I just hope you enjoy the Joy of the Salvation Jesus bought 
for you.

I am not stressing or suggesting one Translation above or over any other. They had been translated by men.

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2 Tim 3:15  And that from the time when you were a child, you have had knowledge of the holy Writings, which are
                   able to make you wise to salvation, through faith in Christ Jesus. 
            16  Every holy Writing which comes from God is of profit for teaching, for training, for guiding, for education in righteousness: 
            17  So that the man of God may be complete, trained and made ready for every good work. 

2 Peter 1:20  Being conscious in the first place that no man by himself may give a special sense to the words of the prophets. 
 
 

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The Bible In Basic English was printed in 1965 by Cambridge Press in England. Published without any copyright notice and distributed in America, this work fell immediately and irretrievably into the Public Domain in the United States according to the UCC convention of that time.

The form in which the Bible is given here is not simply another example of the Bible story put into present-day English. The language used is Basic English.

Basic English, produced by Mr. C. K. Ogden of the Orthological Institute, is a simple form of the English language 
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Working with the Orthological Institute, a Committee under the direction of Professor S. H. Hooke, Professor Emeritus of Old Testament Studies in the University of London, has been responsible for a new English form of 
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These passages a completely full of The doctrine of the Love God has for the world
   1 John 4:8  He who has no love has no knowledge of God, because God is love. 

 Here Christ Prays about the special relation God and Christ through the Holy Spirit have with each believer,
 ( disciple.) 
                  1 Cor 2:14  For the natural man is not able to take in the things of the Spirit of God:
                                             for they seem foolish to him, and he is not able to have knowledge of them, 
                                             because such knowledge comes only through the Spirit. 
                                      15  But he who has the Spirit, though judging all things, is himself judged by no one. 
 

John 17:1  Jesus said these things; then, lifting his eyes to heaven, he said, 
                    Father, the time has now come; give glory to your Son,  so that the Son may give glory to you: 
 
                     Thing to look at:
                          1. Jesus is talking. Praying
                          2. To whom is he talking? Praying to God the Father
                          3. He lifted His eyes toward heaven.
                     Thing Jesus said:
                           1. Time has come.
                           2. Time come for what? Give glory to your Son.
                           3. Who’s Son?  God the Father’s.
                           4. Why should God the Father give Glory to the Son? 
                                So the Son may give glory to the Father. 

John 17:2  Even as you gave him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all those whom you have given to him. 
 
                  Truths  Christ states:
                    1.  God the Father Gave Christ His son authority over all flesh.
                    2. Why?
                    3.  So Christ may give eternal life to ALL that the Father have given to the Son.

John 17:3  And this is eternal life: to have knowledge of you, the only true God, and of him whom you have  sent,  even Jesus Christ. 
 
                  More truths spoken by Christ:
                     1. What is eternal life?
                          A. knowledge of God the Father.  John 3:16.
                     2. Who is God?    The only true God.
                     3. What did the Father do?  John 3:16; Romans 5:8 

John 17:4  I have given you glory on the earth, having done all the work which you gave  me to do. 

                         Truths:
                       1. Christ has given God the Father glory on earth.
                       2. Christ has done what the Father gave Christ to do.

John 17:5  And now, Father, let me have glory with you, even that glory which I had with you before the world was. 
 
                   Truths:
                       1.  Christ asked to have glory with the God the Father. 
                              A. John 10:27  My sheep give ear to my voice, and I have knowledge of them, and they come after me: 
                                                 28  And I give them eternal life; they will never come to destruction, 
                                                        and no one will ever take them out of my hand. 
                                                 29  That which my Father has given to me has more value than all; 
                                                         and no one is able to take anything out of the Father's hand. 
                                                 30  I and my Father are one. 

John 17:6  I have given knowledge of your name to the men whom you gave me out of the world: yours they were, 
                    and you gave them to me, and they have kept your words. 

                Truths:
                   1. What was the Great Commission Christ gave to his disciples? Mat 28:19-20
                        a. Give knowledge of the power and authority of God’
                   2. Who did Christ give this knowledge ( doctrine )? The ones in the world.
                        God the Father gave them to Christ.
                          Pastors and preachers and teachers of the Word beware! 
                   3. They belong to Christ now.
                   4. They hide God’s words in their heart. 
                        Mat 6:21  For where your wealth is, there will your heart be. 
                   5.  Romans 10:10  For with the heart man has faith to get righteousness,
                                               and with the mouth he says that Jesus is Lord to get salvation. 
                   6. They were saved.

John 17:7  Now it is clear to them that whatever you have given to me comes from you: 

                 Truths:
                    1. They were wise, fully understood.
                    2. They believed, had settled it in their hearts. Jesus was from God the Father.

John 17:8  Because I have given them the words which you gave to me; and they have taken them to heart, 
                      and have certain knowledge that I came from you, and they have faith that you sent me.

                 Truths:
                    1. Christ had taught and preached the Gospel. If you don’t believe the Gospel you do not 
                        need to be preaching or teaching. 
                    2. What did they the ones that belong to Christ do with this knowledge?
                         The doctrine they took to heart ( believe ).
                    3. Where did this knowledge come From? God the Father.
                    4. Where did their faith come from? The same faith that God the Father sent the Son.
                          Oh how Great God is!
John 17:9  My prayer is for them: my prayer is not for the world, but for those whom you have given to me, because they are yours
 
                  Truths:
                      1. Who is Christ prayer for?
                          The believer, the one that has taken God’s word to their heart the ones the Father Gave Jesus.
                     2. Is this prayer for the world, the wicked world? The ones the father has given him  NO
                           In the bible the use of world is talking about the wicked side. The devils side. 
                           The unsaved ones. John 8:44
                     3. Why was Christ praying for theses the Father had given Christ?
                          Because they are yours ( God the Father’s .)

John 17:10  All mine are yours, and yours are mine and I have glory in them. 

                  Truths:
                       1. What is mine is yours.
                       2. Jesus has Glory in them, The ones the Father Gave Him.

John 17:11  And now I will be no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I come to you.
                     Holy Father, keep them in your name which you have given to me,  so that they may be one even as we are one. 
 
                     Truths:
                     1. Jesus was on His way out of this world by the way of the cross and His resurrection 
                             on the third day, then ascending in the clouds to the right hand of the father in heaven.
                     2. Jesus Christ is our intercessor. 
                     3. How can we not know that the Salvation of our soul is secure for Eternality,  Forever, Everlasting.
                            1 John 5:10-13
                     4. If God can save your soul then God can keep it.
                                                       Heb 7:25 So that he is fully able to be the saviour of all who come to God through him, 
                                                                       because he is ever living to make prayer to God for them. 
                                                       Heb 2:3  What will come on us, if we do not give our minds to such
                                                                       a great salvation? a salvation of which our fathers first
                                                                       had knowledge through the words of the Lord,
                                                                       and which was made certain to us by those to whom his words came; 
                                             Rom 8:38  For I am certain that not death, or life, or angels, or things present, or things to come, or powers, 
                                                          39  Or things on high, or things under the earth, or anything which is made, will be able to come between us
                                                                  and the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord
                             5. Christ wanted and prayed for True believers too have the fellowship He and His Father had. 
                                Acts 2:46; Acts 4:24; Acts 5:12; Acts 7:57; Acts 8:6
                                                                 Act 1:14  And they all with one mind gave themselves up to prayer, with the women, 
                                                                                and Mary the  mother of  Jesus, and his brothers. 

                                                                   Act 2:1  And when the day of Pentecost was come, they were all together in one place. 
 
          The New Testament is full of Great things happening for the Lords work when everyone is of one mind and
one accord. The believers must have a common Goal in mind. The Goal to tell a dying wicked world about Christ.

John 17:12  While I was with them I kept them safe in your name which you have given to me:
                       I took care of them and not one of them has come to destruction, but only the son of destruction,
                       so that the Writings might come true. 

               Truths:
                    1. While Christ was with them He keep them safe. He now prays the Father.
                    2. Christ took care of them and nothing to them save Judas -- son of perdition.
                    3. Why did the Judas thing happen? 
                          A.  This happened so that what the Scriptures say would come true.
   Here is the best part. Some may say Christ was only praying for his disciples at that particular time. 
                                                            John 17:20 BBE
John 17:20  My prayer is not for them only, but for all who will have faith in me through their word; 
                                                      John 17:20 NLT
                                                                      20  “I am praying not only for these disciples but also for all 
                                                                             who will ever believe in me because of their testimony.
                        Holy Bible, New Living Translation, (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers, Inc.) 1996.
                                                        John 17:20 CEV
                                                                        20  I am not praying just for these followers. I am also 
                                                                             praying for everyone else who will have faith because
                                                                             of what my followers will say about me.
                                          The Contemporary English [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System,
                                                           (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997, c1995 by the American Bible Society.
   Here is Christ before we are even born praying making intercession for us to God the Father. This prayer is for all that will be saved, the ones which belong to Christ. Christ was and is today pleading with the Father for our soul. How can we go wrong if one just trust Jesus with our  soul.
   Jesus died so we might go to heaven to share in His glory. He saves to the uttermost.
   Will you give your heart and soul to Jesus. He will not come in unless you invite Him into your heart, soul, and life.
Make Jesus Lord and Master of your life. Repent change your way of thinking.

What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works?
 Can his faith save him?
James 2:14 RSV

Good works are not a means of salvation because we are saved by grace through faith.  But, our good works are 
an evidence of salvation; and if we do all the good we can, to all the people we can, at any time we can, by any means we can, we will hear "well done" at the judgment bar of God.
     ~ Billy Graham

With Jesus intercession for us how can we not have eternal Life? 
 
John 17:6   KJV I have manifested thy name unto the men which 
                                     thou gavest me out of the world: 
                                     thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and
                                     they have kept thy word. 
              7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast 
                 given me are of thee. 
              8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me;
                  and they have received them, and have known surely that I 
                  came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst 
                  send me. 
              9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which
                 thou hast given me; for they are thine. 
           10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am 
                 glorified in them. 
           11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the 
                 world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep 
                through thine own name those whom thou hast given me,
                that they may be one, as we are.
          12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name:
                those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is 
                lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be 
                fulfilled. 
 John 17:20  Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which
                shall believe on me through their  word;
 

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John 17:6-12,20 NIV
      6 "I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the
            world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have 
            obeyed  your word.
      7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes
          from you.
      8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted
         them.  They knew with certainty that I came from you,
         and they believed that you sent me.
      9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those
          you have given me, for they are yours. 
    10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has 
          come to me through them. 
     11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the
           world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by
           the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they 
           may be one as we are one.
     12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe
            by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the
            one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be
           fulfilled. 
     20 "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who 
            will believe in me through their message,
 

Excerpted from Compton's Interactive Bible NIV. Copyright (c) 1994, 1995, 1996 
SoftKey Multimedia Inc. All Rights Reserved

John 17:6-12,20 CEV
            6 You have given me some followers from this world, 
                  and I have shown them what you are like. They were yours, 
                  but you gave them to me, and they have obeyed you. 
            7 They know that you gave me everything I have. 
            8 I told my followers what you told me, and they accepted it. 
               They know that I came from you, and they believe that you
               are the one who sent me. 
           9 I am praying for them, but not for those who belong to this 
              world.  My followers belong to you, and I am praying for 
              them. 
         10 All that I have is yours, and all that you have is mine, and
              they will bring glory to me.
         11 Holy Father, I am no longer in the world. I am coming to you, 
               but my followers are still in the world. So keep them safe by
              the power of the name that you have given me. Then they will 
              be one with each other, just as you and I are one.
        12 While I was with them, I kept them safe by the power you 
              have given me. I guarded them, and not one of them was lost, 
              except the one who had to be lost. This happened so that what
             the Scriptures say would come true.
John 17:20 I am not praying just for these followers. I am also 
               praying for everyone else who will have faith because of 
               what my followers will say about me. 
 
 
 
 

The Contemporary English [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System, 
(Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997, c1995 by the American Bible Society.

John 17:6-12,20 NLT
                6  “I have told these men about you. 
                       They were in the world,  but then you gave them
                        to me. Actually, they  were always yours, 
                        and you gave them to me; 
                        and they have kept your word. 
                7 Now they know that everything I have is a gift from you, 
                8 for I have passed on to them the words you gave me; and 
                   they accepted them and know that I came from  you, and 
                   they believe you sent me.
                9 “My prayer is not for the world, but for those you have 
                     given me, because they belong to you.
             10 And all of them, since they are mine, belong to you;
                   and you have given them back to me, 
                    so they are my glory!
             11 Now I am departing the world; I am leaving them behind 
                   and coming to you. Holy Father, keep them and care for 
                   them—all those you have given me—so that they will be
                   united just as we are.
             12 During my time here, I have kept them safe. I guarded 
                   them so that not one was lost, except the one headed 
                   for destruction as the Scriptures foretold. 
John 17:20  “I am praying not only for these disciples but also for
                        all who will ever believe in me because of their 
                        testimony
 

Holy Bible, New Living Translation, (Wheaton, IL:
Tyndale House Publishers, Inc.) 1996.

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