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Notes on Romans 8:11-17

Introduction: I started out to bring into play Romans 8:11-17 as the text. This passage of scripture is
  used by various groups as a method to struggle and provide evidence that a person once saved can be lost or go away from their salvation.  First it is not their salvation.
     The Salvation of your soul is a total Plan and work of the Godhead. God the father sent and
Raised His on born son. God the son is Christ Jesus, and The Holy Spirit prefects the saints Gives then a new nature. The God the Spirit seals, put God stamp or seal showing and establishing the believers standing with God. The Spirit keeps us for eternality.
Would God leave his house or temple? 2 Cor 1:22; Eph 1:13; Eph 4:30; 2 Tim 2:19.
                                               2 Cor 1:21 CEV And so God makes it possible for you and us to stand firmly together with Christ. 
                                                                                        God is also the one who chose us
                                                              22  and put his Spirit in our hearts to show that we belong only to him.
      God is great. God is spelled GoOd with the O me missing. He takes care of the person that looses their mind
or comes down with Alzheimer's disease. Once more we as believers must keep in mind what the Scriptures
 edify.
Who does the Saving?
Who Is In Charge?
Whose preparation of Salvation is it, man or God’s?
Whose son was sent into the world to save sinners?
Whose son died, was buried, and arose?
Who gave His life so others might be alive?
   The powerfulness of Salvation of man’s soul by a loving righteous God can not be entirely understood until one surrenders to Christ.
Jesus was Called Jesus before His death, Burial, and Resurrection.
Afterwards He is called Christ or Christ Jesus. In order to comment and fully understand these verses one Needs
to look back in context Romans 8:1-30
The Third Greatest Gift to man is the printed word of God.
The first is man’s life and a free choice.
The second is the man Christ Jesus; it is also the most essential.
 The translators of the KJV set forth a principle.
“ The translators to the reader.
“ This is the word of God which we translate.”
“ We desire that the scriptures too may be understood.”
   It seems every translation has theses Goals in mind.
   The Devil works at shifting the significance of words down throughout the ages.
The word Universal has changed. It use to mean the whole of the sum. Every one that believed the same is one. Now through the world it means in most people minds one fits all. The muslin and Christian God being the same god. The God they worship did not die for the world. The followers hurt others and die for their so-called leaders. Their religious leaders get someone else to do their bidding. 
    The Christian leader died for all who will believe and accept Christ.
God did the dirty work for us. 1 John 4:8.
     Another example of word change. Gift originally mean you were given a present only because someone cared, or loved you. Now it is something you are given ( the gifts price is figured in, you are paying for it anyway ) because you buy something else. God’s Gift is liberated, on the House. You just have to recognize the job Jesus Christ finished for His father at the cross. Beware of anyone who wants you to stay with only one translation.
 1 John 4:1-8.
     If we are to only use one translation what about the missionaries going to do teach English.
Translations are done so people can understand and be saved. The Churches in the dark ages sheltered the Holy Word so they could control their people. In fact they by this practice cause many people to go to Hell ( the lake of fire ).
    Rev 20:15 CEV Anyone whose name wasn't written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

      The KJV might be the customary; many fine works are based on the KJV. They the commentators still had to go to the original Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. There are things translated improperly in it.
       If you preaching or teaching will not hold up in the study of other translations or commentaries one needs to prayerfully study some more.
       By no means just take one person’s word. Study yourself.
                       2 Tim 2:15 CEV
                                        Do your best to win God's approval as a worker who doesn't need to be ashamed and who teaches only the true message.
                          The Contemporary English Version invites you to read, to hear, to understand, and to share.
                          The Contemporary English [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System,
                           (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997, c1995 by the American Bible Society.
 
 

Living by the Power of God’s Spirit

Romans 8:1  If you belong to Christ Jesus, you won’t be punished.
                         Facts:
                          1. Living by the authority of God’s Spirit.
                          2. What will happen if you are in Christ? The believer will not be condemned or punished.

                                        The Holy Spirit is bringing things to Paul remembrance.  The Holy Spirit is repeating what
                                         the Apostle John wrote.
                                          John 3:18 CEV  No one who has faith in God's Son will be condemned.
                                                        But everyone who doesn't have faith in him has already been condemned for not having faith in God's only Son.
                                                     The Holy Spirit through the men God inspired, tell how to stay away from 
                                              condemnation ( Hell ) there is one way and one way only Faith ( believing ) 
                                              there is no reference to Good works saving or keeping on doing Good works..
                                                Water Baptism is only a representation ( illustration ). Works
                                                 Eph 2:8-9.
                                                               Eph 2:8 CEV  You were saved by faith in God, who treats us much better than  we deserve. 
                                                                                          This is God's gift to you, and not anything you have done on your own.
                                                                            9  It isn't something you have earned,  so there is nothing you can brag about.
                                                  Yes you can brag about you water baptism, your church membership.

                          3.  If you are in Christ you have a new nature ( life, character ).
                                2 Cor 5:17; Gal 6:15; Eph 2:10; Eph 3:9; Eph 4:24.
                                 There forth you will not walk after the sin nature.
                                The believer has a new nature.
                                                 1 Cor 3:16 CEV All of you surely know that you are God's temple and that his Spirit lives in you.
                                                                  17  Together you are God's holy temple, and God will destroy anyone who destroys his temple.
                                                                  18  Don't fool yourselves! If any of you think you are wise in the things of this world, 
                                                                          you will have to become foolish before you can be truly wise.
                                                   There is grave hazard in the way one treats a child of God’s.
Romans 8:2  The Holy Spirit will give you life that comes from Christ Jesus and will set you  free from sin and death.
                        Facts:
                         1. How are the Believer’s are set free? Holy Spirit.
                         2. Wherever does the Spirit come from? Who sends the Holy Ghost? Christ Jesus.
                         3. Spirit of Christ makes the believer free from the Law of sin and death.
                              The only thing that the Law of Moses did was to uncover guiltiness of a soul as a sinner.
 
                               Moses Law shows us what sin is. It defined sin. The conclusion of sin is death.
                                         Rom 6:23 CEV Sin pays off with death. But God's gift is eternal life given by Jesus Christ our Lord.
                         4. The you in various manuscripts is translated me.
Romans 8:3    The Law of Moses cannot do this, because our selfish desires make the Law weak.
                                But God set you free when he sent his own Son to be like us sinners and to be a sacrifice for our sin.
                                God used Christ’s body to condemn sin.
                        Facts:
                         1. Law of Moses cannot save. You have heard of man working their way to Heaven. 
                            Well that is what the Law of Moses is.  Mat 19:20; Luke 18:21
                            The Flesh will not let us be free from sin. There is too much self in the flesh.
                        2. God sent His son as the sacrifice for the sinner and the sins of the world.
                                       Mark 2:17 CEV Jesus heard them and answered, "Healthy people don't need a doctor, but sick people do.
                                                              I didn't come to invite good people to be my followers. I came to invite sinners."
                        3. If one is not saved, they don’t have the Spirit of Christ living in them God cannot hear 
                            their prayers.
                                       John 9:31  CEV We know that God listens only to people who love and obey him.
                                                                                     God doesn't listen to sinners.
                        4. The death, burial, and resurrection condemn sin. Christ took away the supremacy of sin 
                            in the death of His body.
                        5. Yet again Faith is mention as the solitary way to be given God’s Salvation.
                             No mention of Water Baptism, Good works, and being baptized in water, live an upright Life,
                             join the church, giving to the poor is all Good works.
                             They don’t save.
                              Eze 33:13 Man’s ( his ) Righteousness can not save.
                             It is by accepting Christ a saviour. 1 Cor 15:1-11; John 14:6.
                        6. Romans 3:20 CEV God doesn't accept people simply because they obey the Law. No, indeed!
                                                               All the Law does is to point out our sin.
                                                         21  Now we see how God does make us acceptable to him. The Law and the Prophets tell
                                                               how we become acceptable, and it isn't by obeying the Law of Moses.

Romans 8:4    He did this, so that we would do what the Law commands by obeying the Spirit instead of our own desires.
                        Facts:
                        1. God did this so the righteousness of the Law could be fulfilled in us by the Holy Spirit.
                                    Mat 5:17 CEV Don't suppose that I came to do away with the Law and the Prophets.
                                                                 I did not come to do away with them,  but to give them their full meaning.
                                     18  Heaven and earth may disappear. But I promise you that not even a period or comma will ever disappear from the Law.

                                   Everything written in it must happen.

                                                           Christ's relation to the law of Moses may be thus summarized:

                                                               (1) He was made under the law Gal 4:4.
                                                               (2) He lived in perfect obedience to the law John 8:46 Mat 17:5 1 Peter 2:21-23.
                                                               (3) he was a minister of the law to the Jews, clearing it from rabbinical sophistries,
                                                                     enforcing it in all its pitiless severity upon those who professed to obey it (e.g.)
                                                                    Luke 10:25-37 but confirming the promises made to the fathers under the
                                                                     Mosaic Covenant Romans 15:8.
                                                               (4) He fulfilled the types of the law by His holy life and sacrificial death Heb 9:11-26.
                                                               (5) He bore, vicariously, the curse of the law that the Abrahamic
                                                                      Covenant might avail all who believe Gal 3:13,14.
                                                               (6) He brought out by His redemption all who believe from the place of servants
                                                                       under the law into the place of sons Gal 4:1-7.
                                                               (7) He mediated by His blood the New Covenant of assurance and grace in which
                                                                         all believers stand Romans 5:2 Heb 8:6-13 so establishing the
                                                                          "law of Christ"  Gal 6:2 with its precepts of higher exaltation made possible
                                                                            by the indwelling Spirit.
                                                         The old Scofield Study Oxford press. 
                           2. We are again to walk after ( with the guide of ) the Spirit of God, thus obeying the Spirit in us.
                           3. The Holy Spirit is a person of the Godhead. Verse 16 in the KJV the Spirit is and if they
                                translated itself a more correct translation would be Himself.
                               The King James translate the Holy Spirit,  Holy Ghost.  I love the pose that it is translated
                                into. One has to know what is intended by the original to understand.

Romans 8:5    People who are ruled by their desires think only of themselves. Everyone who is ruled by the Holy Spirit thinks about
                                spiritual things.

                             Facts:
                         1. There is a warfare going on within the flesh ( wicked Flesh ) is fighting against the Spirit. 
                            Gal 5:17; Gal 6:8.
                                         Gal 5:17 CEV The Spirit and your desires are enemies of each other.
                                                                   They are always fighting each other and keeping you from doing what you feel you should.
                                                     18  But if you obey the Spirit,  the Law of Moses has no control over you. 
                          2. Are you ruled by the wishes of the flesh?
                               A. Is being intoxicated walking after the Spirit of God?
                               B. Is Smoking walking after the Spirit or the desires of the flesh?
                               C. Is breaking good laws of government walking after the Spirit?
                               D. If you do a job just to get by, is that the witness of the Spirit?
                                     Paul made tents.
                          3. The person that has a lot of spiritual things are they of God?
                                           1 Cor 1:29 CEV God did all this to keep anyone from bragging to him.
                                                                30  You are God's children. He sent Christ Jesus to save us and to make us wise, acceptable, and holy.
                                                                31  So if you want to brag, do what the Scriptures say and brag about the Lord.
                                                       Spiritism is real but is it of God?   NO
                                                       Remember Saul in the Old Testament the story of the medium
                                                     1 John 4:1 CEV  Dear friends, don't believe everyone who claims to have the Spirit of God. 
                                                                                    Test them all to find out if they really do come from God. 
                                                                                     Many false prophets have already gone out into the world,
                             4. There is nothing immoral with being prosperous Deu 8:18; Mal 3:10.
                                               Deu 8:17 CEV When you become successful, don't say, "I'm rich, and I've earned it all myself."
                                                           18  Instead, remember that the LORD your God gives you the strength to make a living. 
                                                                  That's how he keeps the promise he made to your ancestors. 
                                                           19  But I'm warning you--if you forget the LORD your God and worship other gods, the LORD will
                                                                  destroy you, just as he destroyed the nations you fought.

                                           Nothing is wrong with being a ruler, king, and person of power if Spiritual things
                                            are foremost. God needs to be in your work. Who placed you in that Job? 
                                           Just look around. If is not right to lie and cheap people to get rich. 
                                           There is nothing wrong with in bargaining. Buy right to make a big profit is ok
                                            that is business. If you are too high it will not sell.
                                             Your talents and possessions came from whom?
                                             God requests his Ten percent, the rest is offerings.
                              5. If you are of God you will walk in the Spirit. 1 Cor 2:14.
                                  A person that is not walking in the Spirit but in the ways of sin are either Lost, under
                                  an false impression ( illusion ) that they are saved or they if saved are very miserable and 
                                   uncertain of their Salvation. Is Sin causing you to lose the joy of your salvation.

                                                                1 Cor 3:16 CEV All of you surely know that you are God's temple and that his Spirit lives in you.
                                                                                17  Together you are God's holy temple, and God will destroy anyone who destroys his temple.
                                 A saved person died to the Flesh.
                                 Christ died so a believer could have deliverance from the Flesh.
                                                          1 Cor 2:13 CEV Every word we speak was taught to us by God's Spirit, not by human wisdom. 
                                                                                  And this same Spirit helps us teach spiritual things to spiritual people.
                                                                           14  That's why only someone who has God's Spirit can understand spiritual blessings.
                                                                                   Anyone who doesn't have God's Spirit thinks these blessings are foolish.
                                                                           15  People who are guided by the Spirit can make all kinds of  judgments, 
                                                                                  but they cannot be judged by others.
Romans 8:6    If our minds are ruled by our desires, we will die. But if our minds are ruled by the Spirit, we will have life and peace.
                       Facts:
                     1. Paul in his writing as well as many of the Old Testament writers inspired of the Lord,
                            Paint a vivid image of a soul without in their heart Christ.
                           The sad fact is a person ( soul ) living in the Flesh is lost to eternality unless they accept 
                           Christ as saviour while they are living on the earth.
                                      Don’t Let that day Pass you by.
                                                 2 Cor 6:2  CEV In the Scriptures God says, "When the time came, I listened to you, and when you needed help,
                                                                               I came to save you." That time has come. This is the day for you to be saved.
                                   Break away from the eternal punishment in the lake of fire ( Hell ) by accepting Christ Jesus
                              as you substitution for the penalty of sin you would have to pay. You would have to be raised
                              from the dead. Christ paid the price. Romans 6:23

                      2. The apostle Paul at the same occasion compares the reception of The Grace of God.
                            The Gospel  1 Cor 15:1-11; John 14:6.
                      3. To live in the Flesh, the power of sin in you life. Remaining in a status with our Christ is to die
                            both physical and spiritual, in fact they are already dead spiritually. The lone less of the absent
                           of The Comforter is a very empty feeling. Man was not created to live with out God.
                           It is your to chose.
                      4. The opposite is to let the Spirit Rule.
                           Then the believer has Life and Peace.
                            The Grammar in the original is present tense. NOW, at this present instant.
Romans 8:7    Our desires fight against God, because they do not and cannot obey God’s laws.
                       Facts:
                       1. A fleshly mind is in opposition to God, An adversary of God.
                        2. An unsaved person cannot satisfy God.
                        3. If the Law of God could save, then the worldly mind could not please God.
                                        Heb 11:6 CEV But without faith no one can please God.  e must believe that God is real and that he rewards
                                                                   everyone who searches for him.
                        4. Are you combating God today? If you have not received Christ as you Lord,
                             Saviour, and Master you are a rival ( not aligned with ) of  God.
                                                  John 3:15 CEV Then everyone who has faith in the Son of Man will have eternal life.
                                                                16  God loved the people of this world so much that he gave his only Son, 
                                                                     so that everyone who has faith in him will have eternal life and never really die.
                                                                17  God did not send his Son into the world to condemn its people. He sent him to save them!
                                                                18  No one who has faith in God's Son will be condemned.
                                                                       But everyone who doesn't have faith in him has already been
                                                                       condemned for not having faith in God's only Son.
                                                         Three of these four verses state that faith solitary is required for Salvation.

                                                         Translation after translation makes it so plain that Christ paid the price.

                                                                  He performed everything that the word of God spelled out  must happen
                                                             for Christ to be the saviour sent from ( by ) God the Father. 
                                                                  It has been repeated that God wants the Glory. If man has to remain
                                                             believing and not lose their ability to reason and think. That would be man
                                                             sharing God’s glory.  At the Least one could call it Conditional Salvation.If
                                                             man had to do his part then God would have to share the glory.
                                                                  Water Baptism, church membership, or good work was necessary to save
                                                             or to keep us saved God would be sharing the glory with man.

Romans 8:8    If we follow our desires, we cannot please God.
                       Facts:
                       1. Plain in God’s word if you are not saved you cannot please God.
                            A. If you save a person physical life you still cannot please God.
                            B. Being Good to someone will not please God.
                            C. No Good and righteous act or work will save. Eph 2:8-9
                                   We have no right to even say ( boast ) that we live a good life. The spirit of
                                    Christ makes us what we are.
                                                Eph 2:7 CEV God did this so that in the future world he could show how truly good 
                                                                 and kind he is to us because of what Christ Jesus has done.
                                                              8  You were saved by faith in God, who treats us much better than we deserve.
                                                                    This is God's gift to you, and not anything you have done on your own.
                                                               9  It isn't something you have earned, so there is nothing you can brag about.
                                                             10  God planned for us to do good things and to live as he has always wanted us to live. 
                                                                   That's why he sent Christ to make us what we are.
                               The fact that a decision is necessary in order to become a Christian is an idea quite foreign
                           to many people. Some imagine that they are already Christians because they were born
                           in a Christian country… Others suppose that, having had a Christian upbringing, and having
                           been taught to accept the Christian creed and Christian standards of behaviour, nothing
                         further is required of them. But whatever his parentage and upbringing, every responsible adult
                         is obliged to make up his own mind for or against Christ.
                            We cannot remain neutral. Nor can anybody else settle the matter for us.
                        We must decide for ourselves……

                                     We may concede that the evidence for the deity of Jesus is Compelling, even
                                conclusive, and that he was in fact the Son of God; we may believe that he came
                                and died to be the Saviour of the world;
                                We may also admit that we are sinners and need such a Saviour. But none of
                                 these things makes us a Christian, nor do all of them together. To believe certain
                                 facts about the person and work of Christ is a necessary preliminary,
                                 but true faith will translate such mental belief into a decisive act of trust.
                                 Intellectual conviction must lead to personal commitment.
                                                                              From  Basic Christianity by John R. W. Stott
                                                                                                          Inter-Varsity Press Downers Grove, Il 60515 Page 121
                       2. Christ said too turn loose of self and take up His cross.
                          Mat 16:24; Mark 8:34; Mark 10:25; Luke 9:23.
                       3. The Name of Christ to the Jews means He is the promised Messiah. He was sent of
                           God the Father. Died, buried, and raised from the dead.
                                              1 John 2:12 CEV  Children, I am writing you, because your sins have been  forgiven in the name of Christ.

                                                                How has God’s Children been Forgiven? Christ.
                                                                By faith. Nothing is mention about Water Baptism, or other
                                                                works of man’s righteousness.
                             A. Christ gave His life. No one took it.  John 19:30
                             B. Sheep dumb Isa 53:7; Acts 8:32
                             C. Christ said it is finished John 19:30

Romans 8:9   You are no longer ruled by your desires, but by God’s Spirit, who lives in you.
                           People who don’t have the Spirit of Christ in them don’t belong to him.
                           Facts:
                           1. Paul through the Holy Spirit states that his readers are not in the flesh.
                               The flesh no longer rules over them.
                           2. He states they are in the Spirit ( Holy Ghost ).
                           3. Repeatedly Paul affirms the Spirit of God dwells or better lives in each Child of
                               God.
                           4. The writer inspired of God ( 2 Tim 3:16 ) writes if you don’t have this
                                Spirit of Christ you don’t belong to God the father that gives them to the
                                Son of God.
                                                                             John 10:26 CEV But since you are not my sheep, you don't believe me.
                                                                                            27  My sheep know my voice, and I know them. They follow me,
                                                                                            28  and I give them eternal life, so that they will never be lost.
                                                                                                  No one can snatch them out of my hand.
                                                                             Do you know God’s Spirit is dwelling in you?
                            5.       Jesus said, follow me.  Mat 4:19; Mat 8:22; Mat 9:9; Mat 16:24; Mat 19:21;
                                                        Mark 2:14; Mark 8:34; Mark 10:21; Luke 5:27; Luke 9:23, 59;
                                                       John 1:43; John 21:22
                           6. Paul, John, Mark, Luke, Matthew, James, Peter, all of the apostles and the Old
                               Testament Prophets knew their salvation was secure because the Spirit of God
                                dwelt in them ( quicken ). The Holy Spirit lives within each born again believer
                                 in this age. God Spirit is poured out on every believers in this age. Joel 2:28-29
                            7. Yes you can know you are saved God’s words verify we can know.
                                  1 John 5:10-13; John 10:27.
                            8. Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ are the same.
                                John 10:30; Romans 8:9; 1 Peter 1:11
                                                                   John 10:30 CEV  and I am one with the Father.
                           9. Believers are preserved by the Spirit.
                                Eph 1:13; Eph 4:30.
                         10. God is a Spirit John 4:24.
                         11. Spirit Gives life Gen 2:7; Romans 8:11.
                         12. Spirit makes intervention Romans 8:26.
                         13. Grieve not the Spirit of God Eph 4:30.
                         14. Quench not the Spirit 1 Thess 5:19
                                 We as believers can Grieve and Quench the spirit to the point
                                 God’s present cannot be felt. You lose that assurance.
                                 If you sinned against your human father you are still always
                                 will be his son, but your fellowship will be greatly hurt.
                                 Read Luke 15:11-32 the lost son.
                        15. It is so distressing to be saved and lose the fellowship and rewards of God.
                                      1 Cor 3:13-15.
                                                             1 Cor 3:11 CEV because Christ is the only foundation.
                                                                             12  Whatever we build on that foundation will be tested by fire on the day of judgment. 
                                                                                    Then everyone will find out if we have used gold, silver, and precious stones, or wood, hay,
                                                                              13  (SEE 3:12)
                                                                              14  We will be rewarded if our building is left standing.
                                                                              15  But if it is destroyed by the fire, we will lose everything.
                                                                                      Yet we ourselves will be saved, like someone escaping from flames.
                                                                              16  All of you surely know that you are God's temple and that his Spirit lives in you.
                                                                    Because in verse 11 the only foundation is Christ.
                                                      Again no mention of church membership, good works, or water baptism
                                                      just only making a decisive act to place the trust for your soul and life
                                                     in the finished work of Christ.

                                                                     John 14:6 CEV "I am the way, the truth, and the life!" Jesus answered.
                                                                                                    "Without me, no one can go to the Father.
                                                                        The more anything is repeated to more significant.
                                                                     1 Tim 2:4 CEV  God wants everyone to be saved and to know the whole truth, which is,
                                                                                    5  There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can
                                                                                         bring us to God. Jesus was truly human, and he gave himself to rescue all of us.

                                                              Heard a song the other day that called Christ Jesus the
                                                               Man in the middle I think that does a good Job of
                                                               explaining what Christ is doing today. It tells to story
                                                               of the security of our soul, the reason God doesn’t want
                                                               man to blow his own horn. I has to be God that does the
                                                               saving, God has to accomplish the keeping. I being man could
                                                               boast I water baptized this many souls into God’s church.
                                                              That may be ok for the Local visible church. We are not water
                                                               baptized into God’s invisible church. I say invisible because
                                                               only God can see into a person’s heart. Only God knows His
                                                               sheep.
                                                               Luke 16:15; Acts 1:24; Gal 4:6; Eph 3:17.
                                                               Eph 3:17 CEV and that Christ will live in your hearts because of your faith.
                                                                                          Stand firm and be deeply rooted in his love.

Romans 8:10  But Christ lives in you. So you are alive because God has accepted you, 
                                even though your bodies must die because of your sins.
                         Facts:
                         1.  Paul at this juncture begins once more to states the positive. He has been
                             telling about what happens to the lost. The lost are the ones in bondage of sin.
                         2. If the world sees you are acting like the lost, most likely you are bound by the
                             slavery of sin. According to the bible if you don’t know that you are a child of God
                            you are in the slavery of sin once saved your body is dead to sin. Then are you
                            bound for Hell? The Lost in the end will never see God or your loved ones again.
                              No more tears. Rev 21:4.
                          3. You who are in Christ, your body is dead to sin. The Holy Spirit is God.
                               Sin separates us from God. The Spirit of Christ dwells in the believer.
                               Sin will not cause the Spirit to leave but it will smother to the point
                               no one can see that you are a child of God. God chastises the disobedient.
                              Mat 25:14-23 ; John 1:12
                                                               Heb 12:4 CEV None of you have yet been hurt in your battle against sin.
                                                                              5  But you have forgotten that the Scriptures say to God's children,
                                                                                 "When the Lord punishes you, don't make light of it,
                                                                                   and when he corrects you, don't be discouraged.
                                                                               6  The Lord corrects the people he loves and disciplines those he calls his own."
                                                                               7  Be patient when you are being corrected!
                                                                                   This is how God treats his children.
                                                                                   Don't all parents correct their children?

                          4. Sin kills the body. It degraded the whole of creation.
                          5. The believer lives because of Christ righteousness.
                          6. The ones that are saved know Christ. Heb 6:12.
                               Chapter eleven is the faith chapter of Hero’s of Faith in the Old Testament.
                                Their faith not works was counted for righteousness.
                                        Gen 15:6 CEV Abram believed the LORD, and the LORD was pleased with him.
                                            You cannot please God unless you are righteous. Believing in
                                     YHWH (Jehovah) – Christ Jesus.
                                                           Romans 3:22 CEV God treats everyone alike. 
                                                                                             He accepts people only because they have faith in Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:11  Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit.
                        Facts:
                        1. Who raised up Jesus from the dead? 1 Cor 15:52
                             The Spirit of God.
                        2. If the Holy Spirit ( the comforter ) lives in every believer and the same Spirit raised
                             Christ from the dead, can He not raise the believer from the dead? Yes.
                             Can good works raise the believer from the dead? No.
                              We do good works because we have the Spirit bearing witness with our spirit.
                        3. How powerful is this Spirit of God, God the Holy Spirit?
                              A. He performed the work of Creation. Gen 1:2
                              B. God spoke to Job out of a whirlwind. Cp portrait of the Spirit of God.
                                   God asked Job how comes man knows more than God? Job 38:1-8
                                  God asked where was Job when God laid the foundation of the earth?
                                    How could Job (man) know more than God since God created man?
                                  Gen 1:26-30; Gen 2:7.
                        4. Have you let Christ take the burden of Sin from your life?
Romans 8:12  My dear friends, we must not live to satisfy our desires.
                         Facts:
                          1. Are you obligated to your flesh for anything?
                               a. It is just going to harm you.
                               b. Get sick.
                               c.  Get hungry
                               e.  Get thirsty.
                                              John 4:13 CEV Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will get thirsty again.
                                                             14  But no one who drinks the water I give will ever be thirsty again.
                                                                   The water I give is like a flowing fountain that gives eternal life."
                                f.  The old flesh is going to die physically anyhow be cause of sin. If you
                                     are living in the pleasure of sin for a little season you are dead spiritually.
                                h. Die on you because it is corrupted by sin.
                            2.  To follow Christ there must be the denial of self.
                                                                1 Peter 2:11 CEV Dear friends, you are foreigners and strangers on this earth.
                                                                                          So I beg you not to surrender to those desires that fight against you.
                                   Titus 2:12; Phil 2:4;
                                                                                 Gal 5:24 CEV And because we belong to Christ Jesus, we have killed
                                                                                                          our selfish feelings and desires.
                                                                                            25  God's Spirit has given us life, and so we should follow the Spirit.

                             3. We as believers are debtors to Christ. Christ paid the Price.
Romans 8:13   If you do, you will die. But you will live, if by the help of God’s Spirit you say “No” to your desires.
                        Facts:
                         1. If you live by the flesh you will die because of sin.
                             This is not talking about a saved person losing the Salvation of their
                              Soul which is a Gift unmerited of God through Christ Jesus, kept and sealed by
                              The Holy Spirit.
                               Paul is showing a contrast between a carnal minded life and a life lead by the
                               Spirit of Christ.
                                                          Mat 7:17 CEV A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit.
                                                         18  A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.
                                                         19  Every tree that produces bad fruit will be chopped down and burned.
                                                         20  You can tell who the false prophets are by their deeds.
                                                         21  Not everyone who calls me their Lord will get into the kingdom of heaven.
                                                               Only the ones who obey my Father in heaven will get in.
                                                         22  On the day of judgment many will call me their Lord. They will say,
                                                                 "We preached in your name, and in your name we forced out demons and worked many miracles."
                                                         23  But I will tell them, "I will have nothing to do with you! Get out of my sight,  you evil people!"

                                                  Rev 20:15
                        2. If you have the Spirit of Christ ( you have to accept, put the trust of soul in the
                             finished work of Christ Jesus to receive the Spirit of God. ) He will help you.
                              a. By the Spirit, the believer is justified there by kept.
                              b. The Spirit in dwells you.  Lives in you.
                              c. He the Spirit seals your soul.
                              d. Keeps you for the promise.
                              e. Gives the believer power to over come and pray.
                              f. The Holy Spirit delivers you from sin.
                          3. God’s Spirit living in you says no to the flesh.
                                           Col 3:3 CEV You died, which means that your life is hidden with Christ, who sits beside God.
                                                       4  Christ gives meaning to your life, and when he appears, you will also appear with him in glory.
                                                       5  Don't be controlled by your body. Kill every desire for the wrong kind of sex.
                                                            Don't be immoral or indecent or have evil thoughts. Don't be greedy, which is the same as worshiping idols.
                                                       6  God is angry with people who disobey him by doing these things.
                                                       7  And that is exactly what you did, when you lived among people who behaved in this way.
                                                       8  But now you must stop doing such things. You must quit being angry, hateful, and evil.
                                                            You must no longer say insulting or cruel things about others.
                                                       9  And stop lying to each other. You have given up your old way of life with its habits.
                                                     10  Each of you is now a new person. You are becoming more and more like your Creator,
                                                            and you will understand him better.
                                                            Powerful words.
Romans 8:14   Only those people who are led by God’s Spirit are his children.
                         Facts:
                       1.  Don’t take this the wrong way. I believe people should think for themselves.
                            Schools are great. One goes to learn. Thomas Edison was exhibiting his light bulb.
                             This young College Graduate approached Edison about his light bulb. The young man said to 
                             Edison, “I know you could not have used tungsten because it would not have worked.
                            ” Edison reply was this, “young man if I had known that I would not have invented the light
                            bulb.”  Some professor had told to student it would not work.  Edison added vacuum. 
                            He also used bamboo.
                               With all of that said Go to school, but use you Mind with God’s Holy Spirit.
                            Fill yourself up with the knowledge of God. Many pastors start using outlines to preach
                            and teach that is a good way. But God has given you a talent of the Style that works
                             with you. Do not be unable to find your God given style. Study the preacher of old. They did a lot 
                             of repeating, explain The Gospel in ways that souls could under stand God word still 
                                works today. John 1:1-4
                                 Paul is a good example of a proclaimer of the Gospel. Something you use to see that was very
                            effected was in a sermon or lesson, the theme was repeated, driven home. The Speaker would 
                            speak about it in one illustration and then use another. Most preachers today say it once if you 
                           don’t get it then sorry that is what tape recorders are for they say.
                      2. How many times is it repeated about the importance of God’s Spirit dwelling in you?
                              The fact it is continually repeated in God’s Holy word shows how Great it is.
                              Do you know God’s Spirit is there giving you the assurance of your Salvation?
                           The Spirit bares witness that you are a child of God. He is called the Comforter.
                            Is their peace in your heart? Believers have peace in time of trouble. Even if they are 
                            persecuted.  Acts 7:59.

                    3. If you don’t have this Spirit you are lost. You belong to your father the Devil.
                             John 8:44
                    4. If you are lead by the Spirit you are His.
                         Do you have something inside you, a story you need to tell a dying world about.
                         Then DO IT DON’T let people stop you.
                          When you share the word of God you are going to have people criticize you.
                          Even so-called Christian. The religious leaders of Christ day questioned Him.
                          They nailed Him to a cross. It was foretold in the scriptures.
                           Acts 8:1-3. Saul set out to kill Christians.
                          The word of God is powerful. It use with the power of Spirit is awesome, it convicts.
                                   Heb 4:12 CEV What God has said isn't only alive and active! It is sharper than any double-edged sword.
                                                             His word can cut through our spirits and souls and through our joints and marrow,
                                                             until it discovers the desires and thoughts of our hearts. 
                                              13  Nothing is hidden from God! He sees through everything, and we will have to tell him the truth.

                             John 16:8 CEV The Spirit will come and show the people of this world the truth about sin and God's justice and the judgment.
                                             9  The Spirit will show them that they are wrong about sin,  because they didn't have faith in me.
                                       If your belief is not of faith it is sin. Romans 14:23 b.
                          Water baptism, church membership and Good works are not of Faith.
                   5. We have a relationship as Father would to his son.
                        There is only one begotten ( only one born of women with God the Father. )
                         The Son of God Christ Jesus, His father is God the Father, God the Holy Spirit does the work.
                         Born of a sinless Virgin, but still has all of the desires of the flesh of man.
                         His father being sinless, Christ did not inherit the sins Adam put on the human race.
                         Oh how great a Salvation God provides the way.
                                                     Gen 3:21  CEV Then the LORD God made clothes out of animal skins for the man and his wife.
                              Shedding of Blood.
                                                         Heb 9:22 CEV The Law says that almost everything must be sprinkled with blood,
                                                                                    and no sins can be forgiven unless blood is offered.
                       We must be born into the human race. Born of the water.
                       Also we must be born again ( Born of the Spirit ) John 3:3 to become a
                       Child of God John 1:12
                                                                               John 1:12  CEV Yet some people accepted him and put their faith in him.
                                                                                                           So he gave them the right to be the children of God.
                                                                                             13  They were not God's children by nature or because of any
                                                                                                    human desires. God himself was the one who made them his children.

                          This verse is so powerful I am going to present also in the KJV.
                                                   John 1:12 KJV But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, 
                                                                               even to them that believe on his name:
                                                                 13  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
                         Sorry to say if water baptism was to be included in our Salvation why is it left out?
                         That would be the same as Good works, the will of the flesh.
                             One translation say God Himself was the one. The other says of God. Not the will of man. 
                         Does God baptize you with water or a man. The KJV says even to them that believe
                         on His name, this leaves everything else out.
                                          a. Not by blood of animals family, by nature.
                                          b. Not by anything you do.
                                          c. Not by what other men do.
                             God plan is God doing all of the work and man accepting.

Romans 8:15   God’s Spirit doesn’t make us slaves who are afraid of him. Instead, we become his children and call him our Father.

                         Facts:
                          1. Would God say He has made us free and then put us in bondage to the Law?
                             John 32-36
                               The believer will Never Thirst.  John 10:13-14, 24.
                          2.  Instead of bondage, God makes us His children by the Spirit of adoption.
                               Given to us that believe by God the Father in the course of the work of Christ.
                           3. In the Laws and customs of the Old Testament Times the first-born got a double portion 
                               of what belonged to the father.  The believer is Joint-heirs equally, sharing.
                          4. Paul was talking to the Romans. He used with the supremacy of the indwelling Spirit,
                                examples the Gentiles understood. To be effective in your teaching and soul winning, 
                              you must use examples that your readers or listeners can relate too.
                               Adoption was not very common with the Jews. With the Romans it was very popular.

                           5. This adoption places the believer in a close father and son relation.
                                  A. Father and sons along with mother and daughter all share things that they cannot 
                                       share with anyone else.
                                  B. I have heard people say I cannot love a child that I would adopt. That is wrong.
                                       Just try it.  If you love the child that child will love you back. Once the child 
                                       is adopted, the child is yours forever.The Child Becomes a Family Member. No one
                                        can change that fact.
                                  C. A child never fully understands the love a parent ( Father ) has for a child Until the Father
                                       wife present him with a child.
                                  D. My wife and I have always tried to keep our children as our friends.
                                       No greater Love of a friend than to lay down his life. John 15:13
                                       If a child needs help they Go to their parents.
                             6. The idea expressed here is we become a child of God with all of the privilege as  a 
                                  biological father. Better translated My ( our ) Father.
                             7. The closeness in the KJV is so great that the translators of the KJV
                                    (“Abba" is the Syro-Chaldaic word for "Father"; and the Greek word for that
                                    is added, not surely to tell the reader that both mean the same thing,)
                                                      Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown Commentary Critical and
                                                       Explanatory on the Whole Bible, E-word.net
                                       This is so there is never any misunderstanding of who does the saving of a
                                    person’s soul. The soul is shown to belong to the Father. A Father protects
                                    his children. God the Father through the price Christ paid does the adopting.
                                    Man can only do the accepting of the finished work of Christ. Then at that
                                    moment the Holy Spirit completely immerses the heart of the believer.
                                         In Jesus' time a child did not become their own person until they turned
                                   thirty years old. This is why Jesus’ ministry started at His age of thirty.
                              8. A child use to gain knowledge of everything from his father until the past one
                                   hundred years.  The personality and skills of the father were passed from
                                  generation to generation. Like father, like son. True Christians with the help of
                                  the indwelling Holy Ghost ought to live like the Father and the son’s examples.
                                   The believer should be a witness. Christian were first called Christian because
                                    they acted Christ like.
                                                                           Acts 11:26 CEV  He found Saul and brought him to Antioch, where they
                                                                                                  met with the church for a whole year and taught many of its people. 
                                                                                                 There in Antioch the Lord's followers were first called Christians.
 

Romans 8:16   God’s Spirit makes us sure that we are his children.
                        Facts:
                        1. The CEV version translates the subject matter so unmistakably. “Makes us Sure”
                        2. This is The KJV version.
                              Romans 8:16 KJV The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
                        3. The KJV tells the reader how this is done. Itself should be translated Himself.
                             God the Spirit is a person. The third person of the Godhead.
                        4. Children = Grk. Teknon
                                                 Meaning one born, a child, placing as a son.
                                  Cp. Verse 14 sons in the KJV the idea of adoption Romans 8:15, 23; Eph 1:5
                          5. When one is born again ( born of the Spirit ) ( regenerated ) they obtain the nature of
                               a child of God.
                                    But in adoption the believer receives the equal portion of the Son of God with all
                                of the benefits of being God’s the Father only begotten son.
                                     Each believer awaits the redemption of the body. Romans 3:23; Eph 1:14;
                                1 Thess 4:14-17; 1 John 3:2.
                            6.  Yet Jesus Christ says he is standing knocking at the door of our lives, waiting.
                                  Notice that He is standing at the door, not pushing it; Speaking to us, not shouting…
                                     But why does Jesus Christ want to come in? We know the answer already.
                                He wants to be both our Saviour and our Lord.
                                    He died to be our Saviour. If we receive him, he will be able to apply us personally 
                               all the benefits of his death. Once inside the house, He will renovate,  redecorate 
                               and refurbish it. That is, he will cleanse and forgive us; our past will  be blotted out.
                                     He promise too to eat with us and allow us to eat with Him.
                                The phrase describes the joy of His companionship. He not only gives Himself to us
                                but ask us to give ourselves to him. We have been strangers; now we are friends.
                                 There has been a closed door between us; now we are seated at the same table.

                                                         Basic Christianity by John R. W. Stott
                                                         Inter-Varsity press Downers Grove, Ill 60515 Page 124
Romans 8:17    His Spirit lets us know that together with Christ we will be given what God has promised.
                                  We will also share in the glory of Christ, because we have suffered with him.
                         Facts:
                         1. How do we know that the believers are heirs? The word of God and the Holy
                             Spirit dwelling inside you tells the believer they will get what God has promised.
                        2. There is so much importance in being heir, Joint-heirs with Christ. We will share in the Glory
                             of Christ. The Spirit uses Paul’s writings to make it understandable.
                         3. Joint-heir, equally even though Christ is the First born.
                         4. Christ never promised His followers they would have an easy life in this world.
                            John 15:18; 1 John 3:13.
                                                          Eph 6:10 CEV  Finally, let the mighty strength of the Lord make you strong.
                                                                        11  Put on all the armor that God gives, so you can defend yourself against the devil's tricks.
                                                                        12  We are not fighting against humans. We are fighting against forces and
                                                                               authorities and against rulers of darkness and powers in the spiritual  world.
                                                                        13  So put on all the armor that God gives. Then when that evil day comes,
                                                                                you will be able to defend yourself. And when the battle is over, you will still be standing firm.
 

                         5. Many today are trying to gain the world. What good is it to gain the world and lost your soul
                             for eternality. Mat 16:26; Mark 8:36; Luke 9:25
                         6. We suffer with Christ. If we suffer them we are glorified together.

                                    A Wonderful Future for God’s People

Romans 8:18   I am sure that what we are suffering now cannot compare with the glory that will be shown to us.
                         Facts:
                         1. The most awful suffering cannot be compared to the glory revealed to us. It cannot be even be
                              compared to the most excellent we could have here on earth.
                                a. Joint-heirs. Romans 8:17
                                b. Be like Christ. 1 John 3:2
Romans 8:19    In fact, all creation is eagerly waiting for God to show who his children are.
                         Facts:
                         1. All of creation is eagerly waiting to be redeemed.
                         2. At that day all good and evil will know who is God. Romans 14:11; Phil 2:10.
                         3. God’s children know now that they a God’s children.
                               a. I lead a six year old child to the Lord showed and told him from God’s word how to be saved.
                                   Before he knew in his heart he was bound for Hell. Afterwards he knew he was 
                                   Heaven bound.  This is one of the strengths of mission work, The souls get saved,
                                   and then the Holy Spirit lives inside. No one can understand until   they make the decisive
                                   act of making Christ both the Lord and Master. It is not enough to have a head knowledge, 
                                   It has to be with the heart.

                               b. The change in these people’s looks, countenance.
                                     The tranquility in his or her hearts tells anyone a good transform has happen on their 
                                   inside. The Spirit of Christ changes from the inside out.
                               c. There are metal boxes one buys to put candles inside. The candle inside is  more splendid 
                                  inside than out.
                                     A light that shines from the inside out is harder to put out. Outsidethe winds of the
                                    world can dim it any time.
Romans 8:20    Meanwhile, creation is confused, but not because it wants to be confused. God made it this way in the Hope,
                         Facts:
                         1. All creation was and still is affected by sin.
                         2. The whole of creation will share in the purifying power of God and Christ redemptive work 
                              on the cross.
                              The Gospel is so great. Heb 2:3
                                                  Heb 2:2  CEV The message spoken by angels proved to be true,
                                                                     and all who disobeyed or rejected it were punished as they deserved.
                                                               3  So if we refuse this great way of being saved, how can  we hope to escape? 
                                                                      The Lord himself was the first to tell about it, 
                                                                       and people who heard the message proved to us that it was true.
                                                               4  God himself showed that his message was true by working all kinds of powerful miracles and wonders.
                                                                    He also gave his Holy Spirit to anyone he chose to.

                                      Can man redeem all of creation? Everything man has done has made matters worse.

                                       Dr M. R. Dehan stated that God is letting man and the Devil prove they cannot do 
                                      the right thing. Everything they do makes it worse. 
                                       Read the book of Job.
Romans 8:21   that creation would be set free from decay and would share in the glorious freedom of his children.
                        Facts:
                         1. Creation will be set free from the fester of sin and will share in the glorious freedom of
                             God’s children.
Romans 8:22    We know that all creation is still groaning and is in pain, like a woman about to give birth.
                         Facts:
                         1. Sin and man wanting to be superior to God ruined paradise.
                         2. God cannot bless where there is sin.
Romans 8:23  The Spirit makes us sure about what we will be in the future. But now we groan silently, while we wait
                                for God to show that we are his children.  This means that our bodies will also be set free.
                          Facts:
                          1. God makes us confident that God is able to keep, not something man can do.
                               Through Christ Jesus sending His Spirit makes sure we are saved and we know we are in 
                                God’s hands.
                                                                             John 10:26 CEV But since you are not my sheep, you don't believe me.
                                                                                              27  My sheep know my voice, and I know them. They follow me,
                                                                                              28  and I give them eternal life, so that they will never be lost.
                                                                                                    No one can snatch them out of my hand.
                                                                                              29  My Father gave them to me, and he is greater than all
                                                                                                     others. No one can snatch them from his hands,
                                                                                              30  and I am one with the Father.
                                      If God makes positive we are saved then He can keep us as believers saved.
                           2. Christ was the First and only begotten Son of God John 3:16. The First Fruit.
                           3. The believers are the first Fruits of the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit, the third person of
                                the Godhead.
                                 These three are in one.
                                  a. I am a husband.
                                  b. I am a Father.
                                  c. I am a born again believer.
                                 If one talks about each one ( person ) it will sound like three dissimilarity person, 
                                 but they are all me. In each I have a difference function.
                                 In each I perform a distinct Task.
                              4. Our bodies will also be free. ( redemption of the body )
Romans 8:24  And this hope is what saves us. But if we already have what we hope for, there is no need to keep on hoping.
                         Facts:
                         1.  The Greek and Hebrew words for Salvation imply the ideas of deliverance, safety,
                              preservation, healing, and soundness.
                                 Salvation is in three tense.
                                  1. Has been saved from the guilt and sentence of sin.
                                        Luke 7:50; 1 Cor 1:18; 2 Cor 2:15; Eph 2:5, 8; 2 Tim 1:9
                                  2. It is being saved from the habit and dominion ( control ) of Sin.
                                        Romans 6:14; Romans 8:2; 2 Cor 3:18; Gal 2:19-20;
                                         Phil 1:19; Phil 2:12-13; 2 Thess 2:13
                                 3. Will be saved, the believer, at the Lord’s return, from all bodily infirmities that is
                                      the result of sin and God’s curse upon the sinful world. Each person's Illness may not
                                      be the result their personal sin But the Curse of Adam's Sin is pasted on to all of creation.
                                     Romans 8:18-23; 1 Cor 15:42-44.
                                       At this moment will be brought into entire conformity to Christ.
                                           Romans 13:11; Heb 10:36; 1 Peter 1:5; 1 John 3:2.
                                       Salvation is by grace through faith, is a free gift and wholly without works.
                                            Romans 3:27-28; Roman 4:1-8; Romans 6:23; Eph 2:8.
                                       The divine order is:
                                         First Salvation by Faith.
                                         Then works because you are saved. Eph 2:9-10; Titus 3:5-8.
                                                               From the New Scofield Reference Bible.
                                                               Oxford university Press, New York   1967 ed. Page 1211 note 1.
                              2. This is not a Hope the believer keeps hoping for. This is a not a dream hope.
                                   It is a done deal. Romans 8:25; Heb 11:1. It is more of a wait till the end.
                                    1 Peter 1:13.
                                                            Heb 11:1 CEV  Faith makes us sure of what we hope for and gives us proof of what we cannot see.
                                                                           2  It was their faith that made our ancestors pleasing to God.
                                                                           3  Because of our faith, we know that the world was made at God's command.
                                                                               We also know that what can be seen was made out of what cannot be seen.

                                                             The word in Genesis 1:1 created comes from the Hebrew word 
                                               [Heb. 1254] bara'  (baw-raw').
                                        This word carries the idea of making out of nothing, that which cannot been seen.

                                                         (absolutely) to create;create (creator);dispatch
                                  3. We are saved By Hope. ( Faith – Trust )
                                  4. This is hope for something we have not seen; our hope is not the hope of something
                                        we may or may not get.
                                       The Spirit of God bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.
                                       We know by faith so we stay ready and wait positively.
Romans 8:25    however, we hope for something we have not yet seen, and we patiently wait for it.
                         Facts:
                          1. Verse speaks for it self.
Romans 8:26   in certain ways we are weak, but the Spirit is here to help us. For example, when we don’t know what To pray for,
                                 the Spirit prays for us in ways that cannot be put into words.
                        Facts:
                        1. The Spirit prays when we need prayers without us asking. He makes intercession.
                             If we need legal help or have to go to court we get lawyer because he knows how to plead 
                            our case.
                                 Christ sets on God the Father right hand doing arbitration for the believers.
                              Not the preacher of the church, Mary, or Baptism only Christ sending the Spirit
                              can be the intercessor on our behalf.
                      2. It is great for the pastor and the church members to remember you in their prayers.
                          There is strength in numbers.  Heb 10:25
                             Mat 18:16; Mat 18:20; 1 Cor 14:29; 2 Cor 13:1; Heb 10:28.
                           The prayer of a righteous man avail much.
                                                      James 5:16 CEV  If you have sinned, you should tell each other what you have done.
                                                                                     Then you can pray for one another and be healed. The prayer of an
                                                                                      innocent person is powerful, and it can help a lot.
Romans 8:27    All of our thoughts are known to God. He can understand what is in the mind of the Spirit, as the Spirit prays 
                                 for God’s people.
                         Facts:
                         1.  Here is the classic of another Great teacher like Christ. Paul again stresses
                              the meaning of being saved and letting the Spirit do His work. The Holy Spirit
                              cannot dwell inside you if you are lost.
                         2. God knows our thoughts.
                         3. God the Holy Spirit understands. If you pray in the Spirit you have to be praying
                              in the will of God. 1 John 2:17; 1 John 5:14
                                                                  1 John 5:13 CEV All of you have faith in the Son of God,
                                                                                                  and I have written to let you know that you have eternal life.
                                                                                    14  We are certain that God will hear our prayers when we ask for what pleases him.
                                                                                    15  And if we know that God listens when we pray, we are sure that
                                                                                           our prayers have already been answered.
Romans 8:28 We know that God is always at work for the good of everyone who loves him.  They are the ones God has chosen 
                               for his purpose,
                         Facts:
                         1. Here is one of the most encouraging verses in the bible.
                         2. Again the bible is full the many things that God allowed to happen.
                             Things happen for a reason for a believer. A flat tire gives the believer another contact to
                              tell the story of Jesus.
                         3. If we kept our eyes, minds, hearts with The leads and fills of the Spirit will lead you to
                              spread the Gospel.
                           4. Car troubles may be happening because there is a soul that needs touching.
                                Don’t pass it by you may miss a blessing.
                           5. My wife and I had a friend a pastors wife. He died of Cancer. She through her many Doctors
                                and hospital visits touched so many people’s hearts. While they would be running
                                 test she would be witnessing to them.
                                    She got sick at another time not this cancer. They were in between churches.
                                The church they were attending was having problems about to split. My friend didn’t know
                                 they were having problems. All of the members started to visit Goldie in the Hospital room.
                                 This became a meeting place. The Lord used this as a time to settle the difference.
                                The church found a pastor other than My friends.
                                See you have to let God use you. You have to be saved before God can use you.
Romans 8:29 and he has always known who his chosen ones would be. He had decided to let them become like his own Son,
                               so that his Son would be the first of many children.
                         Facts:
                         1. If we are saved we will conformed to the image of His Son. Even if he takes us home early.
                         2. Christ is the first of what we will be like.
Romans 8:30   God then accepted the people he had already decided to choose, and he has shared his glory with them.
                        Facts:
                         1. 2 Thess 2:12 CEV All of them will be punished,
                                                                  because they would rather do evil than believe the truth.
                                                          13  My friends, the Lord loves you, and it is only natural for us to thank God for you.
                                                               God chose you to be the first ones to be saved. His Spirit made you holy, and you put your faith in the truth.
                                                          14  God used our preaching as his way of inviting you to share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
          
                          2.  Them he also called. Called by his Spirit to become Christians.
                          3.  A better  word for predestinate would be called. Or to meet a certain need God’s Plan 
                                of Salvation, which we are to conform to the image of Christ.
                                Also could be included we are joint-heirs and be in glory with Christ.
                                God before the earth was chose how all of creation is to be redeemed.
Romans 8:31  What can we say about all this? If God is on our side, can anyone be against us?
                       Facts:
                        1. Powerful, The eight chapter of Romans like a mid-evil castle and a one room
                            house. There is so much Doctrine in this chapter.
                             God the Father,
                             God the Holy Spirit, and
                             God the Son is all spoken of in this chapter.
                       2. God the Father is seen as Judge (vv. 30, 33), as Benefactor (v. 32), as Ruler of history (vv. 28-30), as
                                   the Lord who searches hearts (v. 27), calls men (v. 28), justifies and glorifies believers (v. 30); above
                                   all, He is shown as the God of love (v. 39) who “spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us  all” (v. 32).

                                    God the Son is revealed as the Firstborn among many brothers (v. 29), the Deliverer (vv. 1-4), the
                                   Indweller of His people (v. 10) the Lord with whom we are to be glorified (v. 17), the Savior of our souls (v. 34).

                                         God the Spirit is gloriously presented as the Source of power (v. 4), life, and peace (v. 6), as the
                                     Lifegiver (v. 11), and Indweller (vv. 9, 11). He leads (v. 14), witnesses to our spirits (v. 16), and
                                     intercedes (v. 26). He is the Spirit of our son ship (v. 15) and the First fruits of our redemption (v. 23).

                                          The chapter speaks of men as well. The man devoid of the Spirit cannot please God (vv. 6-8). The
                                    Christian knows infirmity (v. 26) but may live by the Spirit (v. 13) as God’s heir (v. 17); moreover,
                                    his body, as well as his spirit, is involved in God’s plan of redemption (v. 23); and, best of all, he is
                                    to be conformed to the likeness of God’s Son (v. 29).

                                         The opening verses of the chapter summarize chs. 5-8. The closing verses are a rock upon which
                                      assurance may stand forever. Yet this assurance is accomplished by moral means; for God’s great
                                      objective which must be realized is for His children “to be conformed to the image of his Son.”

                                                                    From New Scofield Reference Bible
                                                                    Oxford University Press 1967 Page1222 note 1
                         3. I you have God as your Saviour who can be against you. In other words what has
                                 moral man to say about or to do with forgiving sin. Christ died for that right.
                                 If a priest, pastor, another man or ceremony says they or that can forgive sins
                                 Have they become God?
Romans 8:32  God did not keep back his own Son, but he gave him for us. If God did this, won't he freely give us everything else?

                           Facts:
                           1. God didn’t keep his own Son back. Christ suffered and died for our sins.
                                              Luke 5:32  CEV I didn't come to invite good people to turn to God. I came to invite sinners."
                           2. If God the Father gave His most precious Son what else has He got worth with holding from
                              His believers. With in God’s power He can give us anything.
                                Mat 10:28-31; Luke 12:5-7.
                           3. God freely gave us His Son. Christ did the work, we have to do accepting.
Romans 8:33  If God says his chosen ones are acceptable to him, can anyone bring charges against them?
                         Facts:
                          1. Who makes the decision to accept the believers’ souls? God, 
                               You have to accept the finished work.
                          2. Who is your lawyer in heaven? God the Father right hand Man. Our Advocate.
                                              1 Tim 2:5  CEV There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can bring us to God.
                                                                            Jesus was truly human, and he gave himself to rescue all of us.
                          3. If God through Christ Jesus is the only way to Heaven. God does the accepting on the 
                             Grounds of Christ. Who has the power to say they can’t go?
                              God has all of the power. Christ purchased the redemptive price. If God says the soul
                               he called are acceptable, who can say they are not.
                            4. Is man more powerful than God? Is God so week that man has to help in the saving of
                                their soul. God says in His word He doesn’t want anyone else boasting.
                            5. Is the Devil and his angels more powerful than God. Job 1:12; Job 2:3.
                                   The Devil had to have God’s permission before he could harm Job.
                            6. There is only one God, the God of Abraham. The I AM!
Romans 8:34  Or can anyone condemn them? No indeed! Christ died and was raised to life, and now he is at God's right side, 
                               speaking to him for us.
                         Facts:
                         1. Will Christ condemn the believers?
                         2. Look how Paul with the Holy Spirit inspiring him. Christ that died, better yet
                              He is risen, A live.
                         3. Where does Christ set?
                              In Heaven on God right hand. The right side of the throne.
                               The right side is the place of power and honor.
                         4. Christ speaks for us and in our behalf.
Romans 8:35  Can anything separate us from the love of Christ? Can trouble, suffering, and hard times, or hunger and nakedness, 
                                 or danger and death?
                        Facts:
                        1. Paul asks a Question. Someone said a great teacher drives his or her students to think,
                             use their minds.
                        2. Paul never asked a question he didn’t know the answer before he asked the question.
                        3. If anyone or thing could separate us it would be Christ.
                            Christ has already said we would never perish. 
                            John 3:16; John 10:28; John 11:50; Heb 11:31; 1 John 5:13.
                         4. Paul was persuaded Christ was able to keep what he had committed to Him.
                            Romans 8:38; Heb 6:9.
                                                                               2 Tim 1:12  CEV That's why I am suffering now. But I am not ashamed!
                                                                                                             I know the one I have faith in, and I am sure that he
                                                                                                             can guard until the last day what he has trusted me with.
                                                                                                13  Now follow the example of the correct teaching I gave you,
                                                                                                       and let the faith and love of Christ Jesus be your model.

Romans 8:36  It is exactly as the Scriptures say, "For you we face death all day long. We are like sheep on their way to be butchered."
                          Facts:
                          1. Ones heart is really blessed when the scriptures repeats scriptures, it adds to the importance.
                              Cp Isa 53:6
                          2. We on our own live in sin without Christ or like Sheep headed to the butcher.
Romans 8:37  In everything we have won more than a victory because of Christ who loves us.
                             Facts:
                             1. We as believers in Christ are victorious over sin because of Christ.
                             2. Why did He ( Christ ) do it? For us. HE LOVES US.
Romans 8:38  I am sure that nothing can separate us from God's love--not life or death, not angels or spirits, not the present or the future,
Romans 8:39  and not powers above or powers below. 
                                Nothing in all creation can separate us from God's love for us in Christ Jesus our Lord!

                         Facts:
                         1. These two verses make one complete sentence.
                         2.  Of the twenty-seven books of the New Testament Paul wrote we recognize thirteen and
                               a possible one extra.
                                  I have said one of the first things a preacher, teacher, and/or soul winner should have,
                               one and important thing in their hearts settled. Paul knew because of the Spirit in his being. 
                              This Holy Spirit persuaded his own spirit that Paul himself was a Child of God.
                         3. By this indwelling Spirit Paul knew God was Going to do the holding.
                             Paul knew he himself could let go.
                             Christ promised to never let go.

John 10:27 CEV My sheep know my voice, and I know them. They follow me,
               28  and I give them eternal life, so that they will never be lost. No one can snatch them out of my hand.
               29  My Father gave them to me, and he is greater than all others. No one can snatch them from his hands,
               30  and I am one with the Father.

    In concluding I hope you have made it this far. Some of the things Paul was writing about were numerous. In 
this one chapter Paul covered a lot of territory. From God the father to the death of God Son Christ Jesus.
 Many before Christ arose from the Grave called Him Jesus Christ. Mat 16:16. They believed He was the
 Christ. After the death, burial, and resurrection He was indeed the Christ. Christ Jesus.

     This was written in the joy of the Gospel. The Gospel of Christ 1 Cor 15:1-11 leaves man out.
As a result of accepting Christ as Saviour each believer turns his or her life and soul over the Christ.
How could we miss place any Gift as Great as the Salvation of our soul. If man were to have any part of that it would be terrible.
   A true Christian understands when the Gospel is taught, they know someone may be saved as a result.
   Are you a Christian? This answer does not depend on whether you go to church or not, believe a creed or not, lead a decent life or not. Not to make small lite of theses they are important, But that is the Social Gospel. 
I am talking about a Gospel that the person everyone believers in is a live. Christ is standing at the door
 knocking. There is not a handle or latch on the saviour side. You have to open the door to your heart and
  let Him ( Christ ) in. Once in Christ will start to repair the house, The Spirit of Christ will take up resident. 
The Spirit will begin to change things. There is no way to try out Christianity. It is all or none. 
The word repents means a change of outlook.  Sin will not look the same as before. If you love sin you are lost.

     Heb 11:24 CEV Then after Moses grew up, his faith made him refuse to be called Pharaoh's grandson.
                   25  He chose to be mistreated with God's people instead of having the good time that sin
                         could bring for a little while.
Is Christ your saviour?

The following is So true of a lost dying world. It is plain and simple for God to be a righteous and just God,
 He has to judge to lost, the wicked of the world. Christ is the way, the only way.

John 14:5 CEV Thomas said, "Lord, we don't even know where you are going! How can we know the way?"
               6  "I am the way, the truth, and the life!" Jesus answered. "Without me, no one can go to the Father.
               7  If you had known me, you would have known the Father. But from now on, you do know him, 
                   and you have seen him."

  There are many so-called Christian who does not know where they are headed. Before you can know it has
 to the finished work of Christ that brings Salvation to your soul.
Can you commit to Christ today?
Are you ready to live For Christ, invite Him in the door? Just invite Him in He does the rest through the
 Spirit of God. The choice is yours.
    Many religions of the world say they worship what they call God. Is he as old as the Hebrews God. 
Was their God there when the earth was found. Is their God living today?
Does their God have any Love?
   Romans 5:8 CEV But God showed how much he loved us by having Christ die for us, even though we were sinful.
                     9  But there is more! Now that God has accepted us because Christ sacrificed his life's blood, 
                           we will also be kept safe from God's anger.

                        1 Tim 2:4 CEV God wants everyone to be saved and to know the whole truth, which is,
                                      5  There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can bring us to God. 
                                           Jesus was truly human, and he gave himself to rescue all of us.

All verses unless marked are from
The Contemporary English [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System,
 (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997, c1995 by the American Bible Society.

      If  you have assurance of you salvation ok. praise God.  Then we ask you to pray for some one you know 
that they become saved or that their joy is renewed if they are saved.
Psalm 51:12  Make me as happy as you did when you saved me; make me want to obey! 

There is happiness in service to our saviour.
 Verses not foot noted came from
SwordSearcher 
Version 3.4
Copyright 1999 Brandon Staggs, PO Box 3217, Lihue, HI 96766
Website: http://swordsearcher.com
Email: bstaggs@swordsearcher.com

 Other Verses not foot noted came from
e-sword Rick Meyers
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